Originally by: Lubomir Penev

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Funny how the balance argument disappeared, could you not be honest the first time around?

As for unsubscribed people loading your db, you know you have a pretty technical audience right?

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Originally by: GO MaZ

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QUICK GUYS POST A DAMAGE CONTROL BLOG THEY'RE ALL SO STUPID THEY WONT REALISE IT AND EVERYONE WILL FORGET IT IN 6 HOURS


How ****ing stupid do you have to be before you acquire a position of power at CCP, just outta curiosity? (I'm pretty stupid, I could probably be your Economist)

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Originally by: Malcanis

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Originally by: Biosman

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Now a single customer that doesn't log into the servers may not weigh heavily on our database infrastructure, just as a single snowflake isn't that heavy, hardly a measurable quantity. But it's hard not to notice an avalanche if it hits you. And that's what was starting to happen in our database.

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The avalanche is definately gonna hit you ccp,wrecking for damage to your credibility now everyone can see that it is indeed part of a unique "feature" hence the RP gains earning isk.You do not have a leg to stand on and the only way to redeem yourselves is to backpedal on this unpopular idea pretty sharpish.

Tbh,I would have respected you more if you just said "Dear Eve users,ccp is having some difficulties atm with the global money crisis and unfortunately we need to raise the price a little,maybe for just a short period,to be able to bring you the service you deserve for all your years of loyalty"

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This. They haven't raised the price in 5 years. Saying, OK, well shit happens, costs have gone up and we need an extra buck a month from you all to make stuff carry on working, then fine. I'd have just paid. There would have been a few grumbles, but what the hell - boxed single player games have gone up by rather more than this over the same period.

But flat out lying to us and then contradicting themselves with another lie...


...where's the respect, CCP?

When G.I.s shot themselves in the foot, it wasn't called a "million dollar wound" because they got a million dollars. I feel bad no-one explained this to you.

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Originally by: Annaphera

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How many times on the original forum thread did I see people state that if CCP just came out and admitted that they were doing this because they needed the money, they could understand? Great, they did just that. Now, how many of those same people are vilifying CCP for admitting they needed the money? Hypocrites.

How many people here are pleading hardship, trying to say that a service provider should provide some benefit to those who can't pay for their service, just to get them to come back? A benefit, I might add, that the rest of us correctly expect to pay for? Does the cable company offer such things? How about the local health club? Should I expect the dry-cleaner I pay on a regular basis to do just my shirts rather than all of my dry-cleaning, because I can't afford to pay them this week? If they had been, out of the goodness of their hearts, and then stopped at however short notice, do I have a right to yell at them?

How many of those pleading hardship here have multiple accounts - some as many as 8? When exactly do you expect to pay for all of those accounts at the same time, or are you just leveling characters to sell for isk or transfer to a "core" account? Why should you not pay for that privilege, the same way I do? Why should CCP be upset when you say you are going to cut the number in half or to a third, when that's all you normally pay for at one time anyway? And why should I not be upset that you are taking advantage?

For those who say they have never heard anyone complain about this issue, congratulations, you just have. I have to stay online and keep my sub up to train all of my skills that take less than four days...why should you get training time and not have to pay for a sub? You are training skills that take a long time because you are at an advanced part of the game. Or are you just looking to cheat the company that develops the game and still inflate your e-peen? How is that different, ethically, from the isk-buying most of you profess to hate so?

I'm staying. My two accounts are staying. I'm adding a third soon.

+1 account, CCP.

Though I'd like to see at least a one-slot skill que at some point, hmmm?

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Originally by: Shard Merchant

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To recap..

- Release a short news bit regarding widespread and significant change that would occur in 48 hours.

- Buried with other news minutes later.

- 50 pages of posting follow, discussing the legitimacy of this change as per the reasons given.

- Locked 50 pages of posts because a blog was posted, that repeats the same message.

- Dev blog mentions the 'business side' of this move, which the news post omitted.

- 70 pages of new postings follow.

- Thread disappears from Information Portal. Players find it and continue posting.

- Player guide gets edited to remove controversial remarks.

Without discussing the removal of "ghost training" specifically, what we have here is an attempt to pull a fast one on the players. It is easily the biggest attempted ninja nerf in the history of this game. Your customers deserve:

- More than two days of warning, so they can find out about the changes and plan accordingly

- More visible warning, like the login screen MOTD

- More transparency and honesty about the reasons by discussing all the reasons

Hard decisions are always hard, but how you handle them determines if you gain or lose respect. The player is going to feel screwed by changes that affect them poorly, and this is the equivalent of adding insult to injury.

A lot of people are willing to defend this company regardless of what they do (4S name change, t20 scandal), but this community was built on a common respect for the makers of this game even if they didn't always agree. That was eons ago.

You might not see a dip in subscriber counts, but you'll see an increase in player churn that requires more marketing money to support. You not only lose massive amounts of free word of mouth advertising, but scare away players with the amount of ex-EVE types that leave disgruntled at something you did.

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